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FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« on: September 04, 2017, 08:26:28 am »
Anyone has enough bits to assemble 3.0
Or add individual bits to 2.0 to make 2.x?
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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2017, 03:33:05 pm »
IMO, whilst we had some parts, I think FSA 3.0 was still in progress when Spartan went under. I remember there were still fairly heated discussions about cloaks and the new command point system, and...certain people...were somewhat hot under the collar about the changes. 2.0 wasn't a bad system - sure, it could be improved, but 3.0 was probably going to be one of the most radical changes to a system that Spartan had ever done. I think 2.x is probably the way to go.

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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 04:44:22 pm »
I like the command points proposal from 3.0 because it reminds me of special orders from BFG
• to reroll one die for failed command check
• to board without the assault boarding MAR
• ?
Limit to one command point per squadron with the admiral getting additional option to buy more per game size

Add "assault boarding " MAR for all "assault" named ships and ships with special ops MAR
Firestorm: Aquan, Directorate, Retholza, Hawker (FsA)/ Terran (FsPf), RSN (FsA)/ Dindrenzi (FsPf)
DW: EotBS, FSA, PLC.
Warmaster: Kislev, Khemri, Dwarves,
BFG: Pacification Fleet (IN), Tau Expeditionary (SG), Battlefleet (Chaos), Kher-Ys Corsairs, Crusade Fleet (IN),
LotR: Khand, Gondor, Mordor

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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 02:19:18 am »
I have to say, with all the leaked infos i am glad, that no knew version of the ruleset is coming. Some of the proposed changes seemed a little far off for my taste. Other features looked ok (command points, some changes to SRS).


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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 11:05:11 am »
I never saw the rumored product, but as a longtime Relthoza player, I just wanted a few things:

-- A consistent & unified Cloak/Stealth rule (one rule not two).
-- Cloak that doesn't nullify shooting - to me, this core issue always created both a negative play style, and negative play experience for opponents.
-- Adapt the Planetfall Cloak rule - simple and elegant and as easy to use as Shields are.
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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2017, 01:48:10 am »
First off, thank you fracas for dropping the link in fleet signal, much appreciated.

I would keep 2.0, but port over the SRS rules, using current SRS stats, let any ship take any SRS, but allow as many tokens as wanted, interceptors allowed only one intercept before returning to base (same for bombers and fighters, if you want to use their PD) and full wings may be launched, again and again, but one less wing for point of damage on the carrier.

Most of the rules cannot be ported without new stats...

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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2017, 07:24:14 pm »
So, I've got a draft of the 3.0 ruleset currently under extended development.  It is based on 2.0, with various concepts taken from what was publicly released for 3.0.  Quite a bit of what caused heartburn (primary/secondary/tertiary, paid command points, cloak issues, etc) have not been carried forward.   Changes to SRS, Disorder, and Command Orders have been included.

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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 11:58:20 pm »
Can you share what you got?
Firestorm: Aquan, Directorate, Retholza, Hawker (FsA)/ Terran (FsPf), RSN (FsA)/ Dindrenzi (FsPf)
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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 08:50:37 am »
Yes, planning on doing so.  I was going through yesterday and found a reference to something costing command points, so I need to go through again and make sure I have all of those references out.  Coming soon.
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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 10:43:47 am »
I have the PDF for 3.0 fluff timeline from the kickstarter
Where to post it?
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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 12:03:07 pm »
If you send it over to me, I would post it on my site.   I'd also include it as an appendix to the FSA-3 rules.
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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2017, 10:28:13 am »
I have the PDF for 3.0 fluff timeline from the kickstarter
Where to post it?

I'll also add it to the FSA resources here at MBS if you like ;).

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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2017, 10:42:34 am »
Let me have y'all emails
Firestorm: Aquan, Directorate, Retholza, Hawker (FsA)/ Terran (FsPf), RSN (FsA)/ Dindrenzi (FsPf)
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BFG: Pacification Fleet (IN), Tau Expeditionary (SG), Battlefleet (Chaos), Kher-Ys Corsairs, Crusade Fleet (IN),
LotR: Khand, Gondor, Mordor

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Re: FsA 2.0 or 3.0
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2017, 12:51:36 pm »
Electrons on the way.
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